You must be deeply intuitive, I mean, in order to do what you do and be successful at it. Is there anything you do to protect that intuition or protect that creative process? There has been times absolutely where I've like woken up and dreamt a lyric or a chorus. I've got like 15,000 voice notes on my phone. You know, it's a constant. I've written songs where I've literally sat at the piano, played four chords, and just started spewing lyrics. There's other times where I have nothing and you start with a drum beat, place a few chords in a guitar and just start mumbling, and then the mumbles turn into words. You know, you're singing a melody, and then all of a sudden words start appearing in sentences, and then all of a sudden you got full sentence and you got full verse, and then all of a sudden you've made your sound.

All right now, welcome to the Woot Podcast.

It's good to be here, Will. Thanks for having me.

Thanks for doing. What an amazing career you've had at such a young age.

Yeah, it's been, it's something that actually the older I've gotten, the more I've reflected on it.

You know, it's been like 15 years this year that I's been doing it, and I'm only 32.

So it's pretty nuts when you look at it in that context.

But it's been a wild ride, you know, finishing off my teens and becoming a man in the music industry, is something that I never anticipated, but quite enjoy.

Was it obvious to you when you were five years old or 10 years old or pick some young age that you were like good at this?

You know, you have that thing where you'd never feel. You're the absolute best. You know, I went to my first concert when I was like four or five.

I remember looking at the stage and be like oh that's what I

want to do or I would take part in like school productions and little plays and things like that and

just loved it like loved it more than anything else and that I did um academically or extracurricular

stuff I always felt like I was you know I really wanted to do it and destined to do it.

Whether I was good enough was a different story at that age.

But we came to find out that maybe I was later down nine.

Yeah, I mean, big time.

And so that moment when you're 16 years old, right, you're packing your suitcase to go to the X Factor. What led up to that moment? Well, I watched The X Factor on TV every year. It was like the biggest show. It was getting like, you know, 20 million viewers, you know, for the finale every year. It was a big show, a big Saturday night family show. And I would watch it and just love the show, love the idea of it. And I never really

had the, I never really wanted to put myself in that position. And my, my French teacher actually

filled in my X Factor entry form and forced me into to do in it. And I thank her every day.

Isn't that amazing? Yeah, no, she really believed me.

She wanted me involved in all the school stuff, all the talent shows, all that kind of thing,

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