Has Life Made You Hard-Hearted?
The Emma Guns Show
Emma Gunavardhana
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
If you've been with me and this podcast for a while, you'll know that a lot has happened in the nearly 10 years I've been publishing the show. Back in 2016 I was a very different version of myself; bruised from broken friendships, toxic workplaces and a type of slow erosion of myself caused by a rainbow of life's experiences.
I was chatting to a friend recently during a road trip about how life can sometimes feel as though it kicks you when you're down, how the pain of broken friendships is sharp, hideous and heart-breaking and she made the comment that she didn't want these experiences of make her 'hard-hearted'. Now, while I might have had one ear on her and one ear on the sat nav, this cut me to the quick. As much as I like to think I've made huge progress and am no longer a soft-hearted, easily bruised person, I had to ask myself, 'have I become hard-hearted'?
I don't want to have sharp edges and a brittle exterior but in becoming better able to deal with life, have I lost the parts of myself that made me soft, warm and able to trust and love?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hi and welcome to another episode of the Emma Gunn Show. |
| 0:12.2 | And if you are listening to this episode on the day that it lands in your podcast feed, |
| 0:17.2 | then it will be my birthday, 17th December. It will be my 48th birthday uh even though i am recording |
| 0:23.3 | this the day before i uh had something else planned for this episode and then when well two things |
| 0:29.8 | happened first of all i thought i can't really publish that on my birthday feels a bit miserable |
| 0:34.1 | and secondly um i had a conversation with a friend at the weekend. It's one of |
| 0:39.2 | those sorts of conversations where something is said and it is like somebody else saying something |
| 0:47.8 | is a seed that lands in your brain and your brain is just in the best possible state in which to allow that thought to really |
| 0:55.8 | germinate and blossom and bloom into something. And I thought, well, let's talk about that |
| 0:59.8 | on the podcast because if it was relevant to the two of us who were on that long car journey where |
| 1:04.6 | we were chatting nonstop, then it might be relevant to you guys. As I've said many, many times |
| 1:09.7 | before, as much as I would |
| 1:11.1 | like to have an original thought, everything that I have experienced, you have either experienced |
| 1:15.2 | our experiencing or will experience. And you're very good about feeding that back to me. So I thought, |
| 1:20.9 | well, let's talk about this. And just to give you a rough idea, this is this horrible idea |
| 1:26.6 | that I have become or that we can become hard-hearted |
| 1:31.8 | just by living our lives and trying to do our best. So to give you the context for the conversation, |
| 1:38.8 | we were on quite a long car journey and we talked non-stop. And this was something on the way back actually. So we went to go and see a friend. It was about two and this was something on the way back actually so we went to go |
| 1:45.9 | and see a friend it was about two and a half hours on the way there two and a half hours on the way back |
| 1:49.5 | and this was a conversation that happened on the way back where we just picked up the conversation |
| 1:53.5 | that we left off the day before and we were talking about relationships specifically the friendships |
| 1:59.5 | that we have with female friends, and how |
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