Welcome to part two of our interview with Kevin about living with ghosts.

Unfortunately, I said my friends broke up and we never did see him again.

He, uh, that night changed him when he saw that and he went through that thing.

And he, he'll never talk talk i've actually talked to some people

who've seen him around once in a while and he's different you know he's changed they showed

be a picture of him and i was like you've got to be kid he's like a big biker dude now he wasn't that

way back when i knew him so i'm not saying that was the thing but but he never talked to any of us anymore.

That was kind of like, that was it for him.

Just kind of the breaking point that made, you know, obviously people in college sometimes

that's kind of is, I don't necessarily a breaking point, but an epiphany point of identifying

who you are in the direction that you go in life. But it's interesting that this occurred around that specific event

where such dramatic personality shifts took place. You would mention there was

a somewhat positive attachment that came into your life. Tell me about that one.

Yes.

So me and Cheryl had been dating for about, gosh, I don't know, four or five years by this time.

And, of course, every place that we had been had been, you know, something had gone on, of course.

And then a lot of that had to do with her because of her powers and abilities. So we were in Winchester, Virginia. I was working for a

newspaper out there, and we had been living in a little house. I think it had been about a

35-year-old branch or something, you know, really nondescript home. But we started having things happen,

like little things like, you know, we'd hear the footsteps, and then we'd hear the doors closed,

and there would be anybody home. And she had two sons, so I was basically the stepfather to her

kids. So, you know, we always suspect it was them, and it never was. They're

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