#Finland: Why does the Kremlin both defame and fear Finland in NATO? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute
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#Finland: Why does the Kremlin both defame and fear Finland in NATO? Anatol Lieven, Quincy Institute
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI in the world with the Anatolyven of the Quincy Institute for Responsible |
| 0:09.4 | Statecraft, just returned from Ukraine. |
| 0:12.2 | He's in the United Kingdom and we look to Finland. |
| 0:15.0 | The headlight in the financial times adds the twist. |
| 0:18.8 | Russia warns Finland's NATO membership risks escalating conflict. |
| 0:24.5 | Vladimir Putin himself pointing to this and other voices in Moscow. |
| 0:28.7 | Why Finland upsets Moscow so profoundly, Anatolyven? |
| 0:33.5 | Is the history of the Finnish war? |
| 0:36.6 | Is everybody thinking of 1939-1940? |
| 0:40.3 | Oh, well, I mean from Russia's point of view, rather more 1941 to 1944, in which the |
| 0:46.5 | Finns very understandably, of course, sided with the Germans. |
| 0:50.7 | And you know, the blockade of Leningrad, now once again St. Petersburg, in which more than |
| 0:56.7 | three quarters of a million Russian civilians died of starvation. |
| 1:00.4 | I mean, the southern part of the blockade was created by the Germans. |
| 1:04.9 | The northern part of the blockade was created by the Finns, with of course German support. |
| 1:11.1 | And Finland in NATO creates a huge new NATO border with Russia, extending all the way |
| 1:17.9 | up into the Arctic, bringing NATO closer to the Russian naval base of Muremansk. |
| 1:26.4 | In principle, threatening huge new areas of Russia. |
| 1:30.2 | Now that said, Russia in general has, and Russia is also deeply, I think, offended by this |
| 1:40.0 | Finnish move, because since the 1950s, Russia has never threatened Finland. |
| 1:47.8 | And in fact, Russia gave up a base, which it had been, which it had leased, as a result |
| 1:55.6 | of the treaty with Finland off the Second World War. |
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