Hi, it's Andy here, and welcome to Radio Headspace.

So it's Wednesday morning, and a number of people have asked me over the years.

They're normally people who meditate themselves, or who have some kind of reflective contemplative

practice or some way, or who would like to move in that direction.

They often ask me, or maybe actually sometimes it's just people who have fed up with their

partners or other people in their family or their friendship groups.

They're like, how do I get this person to meditate?

It's a little bit like, you know, in Fight Club, you know, the first rule of Fight Club

is never to talk about Fight Club.

The first rule of meditation, and in terms of encouraging other people to meditate, is

not really to talk about meditation, is to understand what that other person is looking

for, what they're interested in, and to present a little bit more of that.

I'm always reminded of a particular story that I heard many, many years ago about the

dog and the moon.

You might know it.

The story goes, there's a man, and he takes a walk out of his house one night, a beautiful

black sky, lots of stars in the sky, no clouds, and a really sort of full bright moon.

And looking up at the moon, he's just so overwhelmed, he feels sort of tears start to stream

down his face.

It's such a beautiful thing, and his dog comes up bouncing out the house, and he looks down

in his dog, and says, look up there, look at the moon, isn't it beautiful?

And the dog just sort of sits there, tongue hanging out, panting, tail wagging, just happy

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