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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 844: Autumn McAlpin and Vienna Boyes, Powerful New Documentary: “Sanctuary”

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

My friend Autumn McAlpin (co-director and mother of two queer sons) and Vienna Boyes (co-director, mid 20s, queer) join us to share their stories and also their new feature length documentary called “Sanctuary”. Sanctuary—a must see—is a powerful documentary telling stories at the intersection of being a Latter-day Saint (and other Christian faiths) and being LGBTQ. I watched Sanctuary and was deeply moved hearing powerful stories/projects/efforts of queer people, parents, allies, and local church leaders. I learned so much and was deeply moved. I encourage everyone to watch Sanctuary (see show notes) and share with others. The film will be going on a screening tour in early 2026 before being released on streamers -- please follow the film's website and Instagram for screening announcements. Thank you, Autumn, and Vienna—and everyone involved with the documentary. You are making a huge difference in our community! Links (feel free to add more links such as social media if you want to) Sanctuary Web Site: https://sanctuarydoc.com/ Sanctuary Instagram: @sanctuarydocfilm Vienna's Instagram: @indigothestudio Autumn's Instagram: @autumnmcalpin Spencer’s Song: https://open.spotify.com/track/2qKXdi4mxZ0rXGoxJ6jlCF

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:10.1

Our podcast today are two wonderful women talking about a full-length documentary film called Sanctuary.

0:21.0

It's been released, and it's just an incredible film that I had the chance to walk.

0:25.5

We have Watch.

0:27.9

The co-directors of the documentary are with us on the podcast, Vienna Boys and Autumn McAlpin.

0:35.3

Welcome to the podcast.

0:41.0

Thank you, so. And we have kind of this San Clemente thing going on. If any of you love San Clemente, Vienna grew up in San Clemente,

0:45.8

and that's how she got to know Autumn. Autumn said she's known Vienna forever. And we have a son

0:52.0

and a daughter-in-law living in San Clemente that just love living there and surfing

0:55.8

there and it's like the best place in all the world. So I wish we could live in San Clemente too. So

1:01.4

shout out to San Clemente. Come visit. Come visit anytime. What we're going to do is I'm going to have the,

1:09.6

I think Vienna's going to go first.

1:11.6

She's going to introduce herself.

1:13.3

She's the co-director.

1:14.6

She grew up in Santa Clemente, as I said.

1:17.2

She's remarkably talented.

1:19.1

She's queer.

1:20.4

So she's going to talk a little bit about her story.

1:22.7

And then Autumn, the co-director and producer, who was on episode 595, if you want to go back and hear more of Autumn's story.

1:32.5

She wrote a book she talked about, but Jesus, a conversation, and she's created so much content for Lift and Love and through other venues as a producer.

1:42.1

She's the owner of side gig productions. And so this is Autumn that's been

1:46.2

doing so much work in the LGBT space, continuing to use her talents in this documentary. The second

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