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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 845: Suzanne Greco, Sex Abuse Survivor, on Her Powerful New Book “The Stone Sphere”

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8839 Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

My friend Suzie Greco—a survivor of child sex abuse and domestic abuse, a Latter-day Saint, a Harvard Divinity School graduate (Master's in Theology), a doctoral candidate, and an advocate in numerous organizations working to end abuse—joins us to share her powerful story and discuss her new book, The Stone Sphere. In this must-listen-to podcast, Suzie shares: * The meaning behind the title and image on the front cover of the book. Untrained Ministry and Institutional Harm, including both positive and negative experiences with her Stake President, David F. Hollard—who gave Suzie permission to include his name and their experiences in the book. * A Transformative Theology of Forgiveness—a much healthier framework for healing. * Pathways to Healing, Redemption, and Spiritual Transcendence, the golden thread of the book. It's hard to overstate the power and importance of this conversation. Suzie is doing breakthrough, trailblazing work. I learned so much and was deeply moved. If you are a survivor of abuse—sexual, domestic, clergy, or otherwise—please listen. This episode will help you. (You are also welcome to reach out to Suzie directly; her email is in the show notes.) And if you are a local church leader, friend, family member, or really anyone else, please listen and share this podcast and Suzie’s book. It will provide you with better tools to help and support others. I truly wish I had heard this podcast and read Suzie’s book before my own church assignments—I would have been so much better equipped to help provide healing. Thank you, Suzie, for writing this book and for your vulnerability on the podcast. Your insights, courage, and work are helping so many. You are one of my new heroes. Links: Suzie’s Website: https://www.thestonesphere.com/ Suzie’s Email: [email protected] Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FD9FT8B1 Suzie’s Facebook :https://www.facebook.com/suzgrec2 Dialogue Journal Article, "Confronting Men's Violence Against Women & Girls in the LDS Church": https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/confronting-mens-violence-against-women-and-girls-in-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.2

My guest on today's podcast, joining me from her home near Boston, Massachusetts, is my

0:14.1

new friend Suzanne Greco.

0:16.0

Welcome to the podcast, Susie.

0:18.8

Thank you, Richard.

0:19.8

It's great to be here with you and all of your listeners today.

0:23.6

This is one of the most important podcasts we've ever done. We're going to talk about

0:30.6

Susie's journal journey with both sexual abuse and then domestic abuse.

0:39.6

And I just, as I prepared for this podcast,

0:44.0

I had tears in my eyes reading about Susie's story

0:46.8

and all the work she's done to get herself in a really good spot

0:53.0

and navigate sometimes really complicated situations that

0:56.4

occurred on her path to healing.

0:59.1

And then also now to write a book and do a podcast to help other survivors.

1:06.2

It also helps all of us that are better trying to support survivors.

1:11.2

I've been an LDS Bishop.

1:13.2

I had no training in this space and I probably added to the burden of brave people that

1:19.0

opened up to me that were survivors of sexual abuse.

1:23.4

This is a book that I wish I had read 10 or 20 years ago, just to give me better tools to support

1:29.8

people like Susie. So for those of you, they're allies, parents, friends. Please check out

1:36.5

Susie's book. We're going to talk about that and listen to this podcast. We said a prayer before we

1:42.7

started, and we just hope this podcast will help you that are survivors,

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