Episode 651: The Wellness One – Emily Saul on Race-Day Mindset, Segmenting the Marathon, and Redefining Success
I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast
SandyBoy Productions
4.9 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 261 minutes
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Summary
We are back with another Wellness One episode, and today I’m joined by our favorite running sports psychologist, Emily Saul. I’ve admired Emily’s work for years, and several athletes I coach have worked with her and seen real shifts in how they handle racing, training, and life. Emily shares how she came to sports psychology through rowing, coaching, November Project, and counseling, and why she views movement as both classroom and laboratory. We dig into the “helpful vs. unhelpful” frame, flipping perfectionism into process, and building a mental race plan that breaks a marathon into truly manageable chunks. Emily walks through practical tools for race day and how to define success with process and experience goals so your body can do what it is trained to do. I think you’ll feel your nervous system settle a bit just listening, and leave with a plan you can use at whatever race is next on your calendar.
Topics discussed:
• Emily’s path to sports psychology and why movement is a vehicle for growth
• The “helpful vs. unhelpful” reframe for plans, workouts, and expectations
• Process goals and experience goals that support performance
• Building a mental race plan by chunking time, course sections, and fuel windows
• What to do when discomfort shows up early and how to choose your next best action
• Keeping attention in the present and letting completed chunks count as wins
• Why success is self-defined and how to let running serve your life
Media recommended:
• Mindfulness by Ellen Langer
• The Mindful Body by Ellen Langer
• Emily’s site: esaulmovement.com
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This is a Sandy Boy Productions podcast. Hey everybody, it's Lindsay Hein. Welcome to All Have Another with Lindsay Hine. I'm your host and we are |
| 0:25.1 | continuing on our wellness series. I had a little break week or two, maybe two. I think one. I don't know. |
| 0:31.9 | Anyway, we've got another great episode here and Emily Saul, our favorite sports psychologist is on the podcast today. |
| 0:39.9 | Really pumped to have her on the show. |
| 0:42.3 | I've been a fan of her work for a long time. |
| 0:45.1 | I have athletes that I coach in running who work with Emily and have seen amazing shifts in |
| 0:51.8 | their mental health and how it not only pertains to their running, but life in |
| 0:58.0 | general. |
| 0:58.8 | Emily holds a master's degree in sports psychology, and she's a licensed mental health counselor. |
| 1:04.6 | She's been heavily involved in the November project in Boston. |
| 1:09.2 | She was a Division I collegiate rower, coached strength and |
| 1:12.7 | conditioning at Harvard for seven years, and she's an avid marathon runner on the road and trail. |
| 1:19.8 | Emily is such a gifted sports psychologist. She has a calming nature to the way she speaks to you. It's almost like when I |
| 1:31.3 | talk to her, I immediately feel my nervous system just relaxing. It's pretty wild. She has a really |
| 1:38.4 | great way of helping you put things into perspective. And I know you're going to love so many of the things we talk about in this episode. |
| 1:47.1 | I hope it helps you with your next race, with your training, with your job. |
| 1:51.1 | All of this that we talk about can pertain to so much more outside of running. |
| 1:55.4 | And that is the gift that Emily gives all of us. |
| 1:58.5 | So if you want to learn more about Emily, you can check out her |
| 2:02.2 | website. It's e-sallmovement.com. This entire wellness series, I called it the wellness one, |
| 2:09.7 | is supported by Eternal. Eternal is a science-backed preventative health company built for anyone |
| 2:15.9 | who takes their health and training seriously |
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