It's 1st of January 2018. I'm Martin Yelling. He's Tom Williams and this is episode

421 of Marathon Talk. talk. I'm going to do. So, On this week's show, Tom speaks to British middle distance runner Ross Murray.

I speak to Mario Frioli about cross-country running.

Tony's back with his trials.

There's crazy times in Dubai.

Mary Cataini's going for the world record in London and an American runs a sub five minute mile for

the 43rd consecutive year. Plus you guys rate your runs, stand on the podium and climb

aboard the launch pad Tom Williams.

How you doing?

I can't believe it. I've been getting slower.

What?

So why can't you believe this?

What? Because I've trained like a dog for the last month.

But that does happen, doesn't it? You know that happens.

You know that's a common response.

So it's not, it's not something, you know what's going to happen soon, don't you?

You are going to

the sunlight, you are going to burst through into the sunlight.

I know, I've always been really good at putting things in perspective and I'm genuinely

not bothered. I mean I'm really genuinely not. been really

in perspective and I'm genuinely not bothered.

But it's one of this in this context right so I went to part

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