4.8 • 839 Ratings
🗓️ 29 June 2020
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler. |
| 0:10.8 | My guest on today's podcast, calling in from Michigan is my friend Dr. Taylor Petrie. |
| 0:17.7 | Welcome to the podcast, Taylor. |
| 0:20.5 | Richard, thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to get to talk to you. |
| 0:24.6 | Just by background, Taylor, I'm going to call him Taylor through the rest of the podcast, even though he is Dr. Petrie to many. |
| 0:33.2 | As a doctorate in New Testament and early Christianity from Harvard Divinity School and is now an associate professor at Kalamazoo College in Michigan. |
| 0:43.7 | And he has written a book that we're going to talk about called Tabernacles of Clay, Sexuality and Gender in Modern Mormonism. |
| 0:53.4 | And for our listeners, I haven't had a chance to read this book. |
| 0:56.1 | I like to read every book before doing a podcast, but that's become impossible these days. |
| 1:01.2 | But I follow Taylor on Twitter and social media, and a lot of my LGBTQ friends have read |
| 1:10.5 | this book and have commented on social media how much it's helped them. |
| 1:14.8 | Many of those are active Latter-day Saints, and I like any book or any ally that stepped in the |
| 1:21.5 | space that writes things that bring hope and healing, particularly to LGBTQ people who are walking a really difficult road |
| 1:28.9 | and also helpful for me as an ally. So I better have, I have better tools and a better |
| 1:35.3 | perspective to lift their burden versus saying something that could potentially add to their burden. |
| 1:41.6 | So we're going to focus on Taylor's book and a little bit about why he wrote it and what sections |
| 1:47.8 | he wants that are important to him and things that he feels would be helpful for our listeners. |
| 1:55.6 | But Taylor, it's June. |
| 1:57.6 | And when I think of Michigan, I think of tell us just how beautiful it is and outside where you live right now. |
| 2:06.0 | It's the absolute perfect time of the year here. I love it. I live probably about 40 minutes from the beach, and we try to make it out there pretty regularly. |
| 2:16.4 | But I also live on a small lake |
| 2:18.8 | here in Michigan, and I'm looking at my window at the sun, just kind of getting a little |
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