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At Last She Said It

Episode 248 (Bonus): Revisiting Christ Chose Women

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5900 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Latter-day Saints are often told that the contemporary Church is built on the same model Jesus Christ used to establish His church. In this bonus re-release, Cynthia and Susan offer a few thoughts on that idea, and also discuss the pattern they see: the Bible doesn't only show Jesus choosing women in the New Testament—beginning with Eve, women are cast in pivotal roles from the very start. The original episode explores how Jesus's inclusion of women was radical within its cultural context. Yet for most of history, his namesake religion has been marked by near-total domination of the patriarchy. What happened? Greg Prince once asked Chieko Okazaki a question that bears repeating: "…where do we need to go to get women in the Church where He wants them to be?" In Episode 248, Cynthia and Susan pose that question again, shining light on a few of the women hidden in plain sight at Christianity's beginnings.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Susan Hinkley.

0:05.9

And I'm Cynthia Winward.

0:07.8

And this is at last she said it.

0:09.5

We are women of faith discussing complicated things.

0:12.2

And the title of today's episode is Revisiting Christ Chose Women.

0:17.5

Hello, Susan!

0:18.5

Hello, what a pleasure to be hearing your voice, Cynthia.

0:22.9

It's been a minute, hasn't it?

0:24.5

It has indeed.

0:26.2

Let's talk about why we're revisiting this particular episode.

0:30.9

Well, one reason I'm just going to be really honest with our listeners is I went back and looked at some of our older episodes

0:38.2

and saw which ones were the most popular and this was one of them. So, you know, our listeners

0:45.4

know what they like. So I figure, hey, let's slap a new intro on this and make the people

0:50.8

happy. That's my reason. I think it's a great reason.

0:55.8

It also feels timely for me just because of some things I've been reading,

0:59.4

conversations I've been having.

1:00.8

It's like, I don't know, when I revisited it, I thought,

1:04.3

this episode for being several years old feels very present to me right now somehow.

1:10.1

So anyway, so I'm happy to have an

1:12.1

opportunity to chew on it for a minute before we roll it. Yes. I also, as I was preparing a few

1:18.5

bullet points here that I wanted to say, I was thinking to myself, I kind of wish we could do like

1:22.8

a PS to every episode that we put out there because sometimes we get amazing comments after episodes

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