Episode 232: Let's Talk About Sanctuary

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Religion & Spirituality, Feminism, Motherhood, Ldswomen, Spirituality, Lds, Thechurchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, Mormonwomen, Religion, Marriage, Mormon, Faith

5 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Diana Butler Bass wrote, "To belong is to be, for belonging is ultimately a question of identity: Who am I?" For many Latter-day Saint women, a place where they can just "be"—whoever and wherever they are right now—feels elusive. That's what the ALSSI project aims to create: a community where women can speak honestly about the complexity of their church life and/or faith journey, feel seen and validated in their experience, and find support. Episode 232 explores ideas about spiritual sanctuary. What does it mean to create it for ourselves? And how can we provide it for others?

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0:00.0	I think moments is a really pivotal word in that idea because I don't know about you, but like for me, everything that I have about God, I only have in moments.
0:17.2	Yes, fleeting moments. And I can point to, you know, some, yeah, fleeting moments. I glimpse things occasionally or feel them or experience them in fleeting moments. And I can point to, you know, some, yeah, fleeting moments. I glimpse
0:21.7	things occasionally or feel them or experience them in fleeting moments, sometimes before I even
0:27.7	realize what's happening. Oh, almost always. You know, before I can even get myself around it.
0:34.8	It's these moments. And so like like, maybe the idea of creating sanctuary for
0:39.8	myself wouldn't even really be a sustainable thing. Maybe the goal becomes creating moments of
0:47.6	sanctuary. That we take with us everywhere. If I can have moments, yeah, that we take,
0:53.6	that we just put in our pocket and continue to carry with us, and then I can have moments, yeah, that we take, that we just put in our pocket
0:54.6	and continue to carry with us, and then we can, we can lean on them.
1:02.3	Hi, I'm Cynthia Winward. And I'm Susan Hinkley. And this is at last she said it. We are women of
1:08.9	faith discussing complicated things.
1:13.5	And the title of today's episode is,
1:16.4	Let's Talk About Sanctuary.
1:18.9	Sanctuary.
1:21.8	I am so excited for this conversation, Cynthia.
1:23.3	I know you're excited. And this was totally your idea.
1:25.1	So I really hope that the reason that you wanted to talk about this comes through loud and clear.
1:31.9	I hope so too.
1:33.2	Yeah, it left me scratching my head for a minute.
1:35.7	But then the more you explained it to me, I was like, yes, yes.
1:40.0	So why don't you go ahead and introduce where we're going to go today with this?
1:44.7	Well, I want to start with a quote that we have used on the podcast before.
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