Episode 143: On Lay Elders - Part 1 (with Klon Kitchen)

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 15 September 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Churches ought to have elders. Some will be paid (1 Tim. 5), but many will be not. These unpaid elders are called “lay elders.” Is this distinction in this Bible? Are lay elders “minor-league elders”? Are they called to ministry in the same way senior pastors are? How can a church make sure that there isn’t a deep divide between elders who are paid by the church and those who aren’t?

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Klon Kitchen (a lay elder at Cheverly Baptist Church) about these questions and more.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Jonathan Lehman.
0:08.8	I'm Mark Devere.
0:09.8	And welcome to this episode of Nine Marks Pastors Talk.
0:12.0	Nine Marks Exist to equip church leaders with a biblical vision and practical resources for building healthy churches learn more at...
0:17.6	Nine marks.org.
0:18.4	I always think you're going to say nine marks exist for the glory of God,
0:26.2	and you never do. I can add that. I just put it on everything he wrote. I assume everything we do is for the glory of God. I don't go around all day saying, doing this for the glory of God, do I? Do you?
0:30.7	I don't know about all this assuming, Jonathan. All right. Well, we also have with us today,
0:35.2	an old and dear friend of both of ours. Klondike Kitchen.
0:38.5	That is not my name.
0:39.7	But it is.
0:40.1	Canada with a K.
0:43.7	His name is Klon Kchitchen, though.
0:45.8	Yeah.
0:46.7	And he is a senior fellow.
0:50.6	Not just that.
0:52.1	Also a director of cybersecurity?
0:56.9	Cyber.
0:57.5	Technology policy.
0:58.2	Technology policy at Heritage Foundation here in Washington, D.C., just down the road
1:03.2	from Capitol Hill Baptist Church.
1:05.6	And Klon and I had a privilege of serving together as lay elders first at Capitol
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