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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Episode 144: On Lay Elders - Part 2 (with Klon Kitchen)

Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

9Marks

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8698 Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

How do you prevent a potential friction between staff and lay elders? How do you ensure they’re not just “yes men”? How much deference should non-staff elders give others?

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Klon Kitchen continue their conversation on lay elders.

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0:00.0

Welcome to this edition of Pastors Talk.

0:10.8

Pastors Talk exists for the glory of God to equip churches with healthy things to equip them to go to 9mark's.org if you want to know more.

0:22.1

Pastors talk.

0:23.2

It's here for you during these trying days.

0:26.4

That was good.

0:27.9

Well, you should do whatever?

0:28.9

I'm here with John Mark Devere and I'm here with Jonathan Lehman.

0:32.2

You should do this every time.

0:33.4

And we have a special guest today.

0:35.5

Clon Kitchen.

0:36.5

From Canada.

0:38.7

Not. Clon Kitchen. From Canada. Not.

0:39.9

Clon Kitchen.

0:41.3

Clon, thank you for joining us again.

0:43.5

Happy to do you.

0:44.4

For a second conversation about elders.

0:47.1

And lay elders especially.

0:48.3

And lay elders especially.

0:49.4

That's exactly right.

0:50.3

We talked last time about kind of calling.

0:53.0

We talked about what it means to become. We talked about

0:55.6

differences between staff, non-staff elders, how many hours a week you spend, that's sort of the

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