Ep 355 Dr. Ellyn Bader and Dr. Peter Pearson

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🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this first special episode of "So I Married a Relationship Expert", Zach and Laura sit down with Dr. Ellyn Bader and Dr. Peter Pearson, co-founders of The Couples Institute. This conversation dives deep into the dynamics of relationships, focusing on the developmental stages of couples therapy, the power of differentiation, and essential skills to strengthen partnerships. Known for pioneering the Developmental Model of Couples Therapy, Ellyn and Peter share invaluable insights into managing differences, fostering curiosity, and cultivating long-term relationship growth.

Topics discussed include:

The unique journey of Ellyn and Peter, from their chance meeting to building a thriving partnership and business.
Key relationship stages, including the often-overlooked "differentiation stage."
How curiosity and resilience are fundamental to a healthy, growing relationship.
The transformative power of mini-intensives and two-day intensives for couples, especially for entrepreneur couples.
Practical exercises for couples to manage conflict, deepen understanding, and support each other's dreams.

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, welcome back to Marriage Therapy Radio. I'm your host, Zach Brittle. And I'm thrilled
0:08.0	today to be bringing you a very special episode. Actually, this is part one in a four-part series
0:13.2	that I originally wanted to call So I Married an Axe Murderer. I have a specific kind of nostalgia
0:18.6	for a 30-year-old movie that I love to quote. Let's see, what's one of them? She was a thief. You gotta believe. She stole my heart and my cat. That's So I Married an Expert. Instead, we're focusing on So I Married a Relationship Expert. We have four interviews coming up. This week we're joined by Absolute Legends in the field of couples therapy, Dr. Ellen Bader and Dr. Peter Pearson.
0:40.7	They're the co-founders of the Couples Institute in Menlo Park, California.
0:44.8	They've been working together for over 40 years to help couples build stronger, more connected relationships.
0:49.5	I met Dr. Bader at a conference a little over a year ago, and I was impressed, which is to say she made
0:55.1	an impression on me with her theories of differentiation, as well as the overall developmental model
1:00.7	of couples therapy, which very briefly helps partners grow individually while also deepening
1:05.1	their connection as a couple. In today's interview, we'll dive into how Ellen and Peter's
1:09.2	relationship has evolved both personally and professionally. They explore some of the most common challenges that couples face.
1:15.1	We learn how they've kept their own relationship thriving after decades of working and living
1:18.4	together. Plus, they'll share some practical tips you can apply to your relationship right
1:22.1	away. So, without further ado, let's get to the conversation. Here are Dr. Ellen Bader and Dr. Peter Pearson.
1:29.5	We want to just kind of say, hey, what's it like being married to a relationship specialist?
1:34.2	And I'll start there, actually, because I'm not clear or sure if that's something that you guys knew before you came together.
1:40.9	Or did you meet, like, in high school and you were just like you know a cheerleader
1:47.3	you want to know the love story yeah like how did you guys become you guys one thing are we on here
1:53.3	I mean are we it's yeah yeah we're talking now yeah jumping in okay how about how about this first
1:58.0	starting off with humor if I were to say we met on a jury and I acquitted Ellen, now that would be funny, but not true.
2:07.7	Okay.
2:10.0	I've heard wilder stories, believe it or not.
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