Hello and welcome to the Calmar You podcast. This is your host, Chloe Brotheridge. I'm a coach, a

hypnotologist and I'm the author of The Anxiety Solution and Brave New Girl. And this podcast is all

about helping you to become your calmest, happiest and most confident self. Hello, hello,

thanks for listening today.

Welcome to the Carmelieu podcast.

I'm talking with Lauren Bravo today.

She is an author, an award-winning journalist,

and she writes about fashion, food, pop culture, travel, feminism and life.

For the likes of the Sunday Times style, Gratzia Refinery 29,

Cosmopolitan stylist, The Guardian and many more.

And she has a new book out called Probably Nothing, which is the answer to just how far sheer awkwardness can take someone.

And so we have a really interesting discussion about some of the themes from her book, which are also themes from her own life, things like people pleasing.

And we talk about examples from our own lives of how that can show up. And it may be useful

for you to help you to spot perhaps some of these ways that people pleasing shows up for you.

And I really think that just highlighting these things and talking about these sorts of topics more

is healing in itself. So while this podcast isn't going to give you three simple steps to

stopping a pupil pleaser, it is so valuable because we're really shining a light on the ways

that this shows up for us. We also get into the topic of health anxiety, something that Lauren has

experienced since childhood. Then we get into the topic of health anxiety, something that Lauren has experienced since childhood.

Then we get into chatting about pregnancy and this pressure that we can often feel to be productive,

to get the nursery ready, to get, you know, books written or projects completed before the baby comes,

and how that, you know, quite often doesn't end up happening

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