Welcome to the Second in Command Podcast, produced by the C.O. Alliance and brought to

its founder Cameron Herald.

In the second-in-command podcast, we talked to top COOs who share the insights, strategies,

and tactics that made them the chief behind the chief.

And now here's your host, Cameron Harold.

Our guest today is Kelly Pelker, the executive director for Podcast magazine.

Kelly Pelker is also the president and CEO of both ear control and bold enterprises, which she runs alongside

Steve Ulcher.

Kelly has been providing high-level customer service business support, consulting, coaching,

and event management to businesses and leading entrepreneurs for over 35 years.

She's a pragmatic idealist, best-selling author,

and visionary with an incomparable track record

of helping to facilitate dramatic results

for her six and seven-figure clients

while holding them accountable to achieve their business goals and objectives.

Kelly serves many roles from the executive editor of podcast magazine, content producer for the hot 50

countdown, and the soon to be beyond the microphone as well as being the lead coach for the company's year long icon maker coaching program where they help clients to become icons of influence in their niche.

So Kelly, welcome to the Second Command podcast. to become icons of influence in their niche.

So Kelly, welcome to the Second Command podcast.

Thank you.

Normally when I do these interviews, every guest is a little bit nervous

and I'm sitting here going, wow, I'm interviewing the kind of second command for podcast magazine.

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