Welcome to Second and Command, brought to you by C.O. Alliance, where top-level COO

share the insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the chief behind the chief.

And now here's your host, Cameron Herald.

Jessica Higgins, the C.O. for Gaping Void, which is a culture design group based in Miami,

has an amazing story to tell and we had a really fun interview today. Jessica and I met at a Genius Network

event about a year ago and there, I was at first really enamored with their company because

of the art that they do, but I didn't realize the depth of the actual culture

consulting they do for major brands and they do some fantastic stuff so definitely

check out gaping void.com and some of the cool artwork but also listening on the

podcast to some of the leadership artwork but also listening on the podcast to some of the

leadership tips and business stories that she can give us. Jessica's got her

MBA, she also has her law degree and again is the CEO of Gaping Void. It's the only end-to-end culture design firm that's in existence.

Her team gives all the strategies, methods, and tools that you need to make your ideal culture become a reality.

She's also an author and a public speaker and a board advisor for organizations and technology. She wrote a really cool piece on the

on the arts.

She wrote a really cool piece on the 20,

I guess 20 tips related to female executives.

If you just look up 20 female executives. If you just look up 20 female executive

and the name Jessica Higgins,

you'll see an amazing article from her.

But anyway, enough of me rambling.

Let's dive into this conversation with Jessica and I.

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