is about how we're all programmed and

conditioned and acculturated.

And so that's what I also wanted to do

was this wake-up call.

Because I don't think that any of us are like,

yes, program me.

Please, like run me like a computer

and tell me what to think and feel.

We're not conscious of how that actually happens and shows up in our lives.

Welcome to the new Balanced Bites podcast.

I'm your host, Liz, a nutritional therapy practitioner and best-selling

author bringing you candid myth-busting and thought-provoking conversations about

food fitness and life. Remember, the information in this podcast

should not be considered personal, individual, or medical advice. Now about today's episode, I am speaking with Elise Lunin, who is the author of the

instant New York Times Best Seller on Our best behavior, the seven deadly sins and the price women pay to be good.

And it would be an understatement to say that this book changed and continues to change my life, and it did so with a lot of resistance from me at the outset. I had a lot of

generalized objections to spending any time talking about the patriarchy, let alone what I thought to be like a holdover from

archaic religious practice like the Seven Deadly Sins. But then I will be honest.

First of all, the gorgeous cover of this book pulled me in. And by the first page, I was absolutely

hooked, like the first sentence I was hooked. Not only because I feel like I have so much in common

with Elise, as I say multiple times in this interview, but because this is a book

that does everything I love a book to do. It weaves history, context, historical thinkers,

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