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#ELECTRICITY: Data Center demands on the brittle grid. Bud Weinstein, RealClearEnergy.

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🗓️ 24 January 2025

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#ELECTRICITY: Data Center demands on the brittle grid. Bud Weinstein, RealClearEnergy.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor.

0:07.6

Electricity. I welcome Bud Weinstein, retired associate director of the McGuire Energy Institute at SMU,

0:14.8

Professor Emeritus at the University of North Texas and a fellow of Good Enough College in London,

0:19.6

writing at Real Clear Energy about electricity.

0:23.7

Franklin, Benjamin Franklin, to today. There was never enough of it. And now, but a very good

0:29.6

evening to you, I very much appreciate learning a new word, terawatts. You report in your column

0:35.9

that right now we consume 4,000 terawatts per year in the United States.

0:42.6

That's 4 trillion, 4,000 trillion watts.

0:48.5

That's a big number.

0:49.9

That's a big number.

0:51.7

And that runs us right now, although every once in a while a tree falls on the power lines out here at Connecticut and I go to my backup.

0:59.1

However, what we need in the future is humbling.

1:02.9

What's happened, Bud?

1:03.8

Good evening to you.

1:05.3

Good evening, John.

1:06.4

I think the basic problem is an emerging disparity, if you will, between the demand for electricity and the available supply.

1:18.2

As we discussed on your program before, the demand for electricity has been growing very rapidly, particularly in the last couple of years.

1:26.4

It's up about 8% over the last five years.

1:29.2

The Department of Energy sees demand increasing as we see more and more reshoring.

1:36.8

We build more factories in the United States.

1:40.5

Electric vehicles, a part of the picture.

1:43.9

Hydrogen uses a tremendous amount of juice.

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