The 12 steps, it is a Jedi Mind Trek, it is a recipe so that you are addressing all the

underlying issues that you have that make alcohol your cure.

Welcome to the sober friends podcast.

My name is Matt.

Steve is over there.

And immediately I've got a topic here.

And I'm thinking about Bill from, what is the name?

What is the name?

But a podcast, bringing up Bill's name again.

And now, you know, Bill said it's great that when we go off topic, sober but not mature.

I'm doing the intro and I'm already off topic because I'm thinking of Bill and sober not mature

and those two guys who like it when we go off topic.

But I really want to talk about what sobriety opened up.

I had this conversation last week with Dr. Jaffe and I'm still thinking about what is good about

sobriety because we talk about our struggles all the time when we had alcohol, but I want the

newcomer to think about, you know, shit, man, this is too hard to do.

No, no, no.

What was it like, oh, my God, I'm glad I did this and I didn't realize life is easier

because I got sober and just kicking off.

It's the mental chess game ended with me. Off the top, what your thoughts on the

on the topic. Good morning, Matt. Good morning. Yeah. Happy Sunday to us and Tuesday when you hear

this somewhere down the road.

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