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Sober Friends

E268: Dr. Adi Jaffe: Getting Better Is the Goal

Sober Friends

Matt J

12 Steps, Spirituality, Personal Journals, Mental Health, Sober, Recovery, Health & Fitness, Addiction, Religion & Spirituality, Alcohol Free, Sober Curious, Alcoholics Anonymous, Dry January, Society & Culture, Sobriety

4.3 β€’ 722 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Send us Fan Mail What does recovery actually mean? If you've ever measured your sobriety by days and wondered if there was more to it than that, this episode is for you. Matt sits down with Dr. Adi Jaffe β€” psychologist, neuroscientist, UCLA researcher, and author of The Abstinence Myth and Unhooked β€” for one of the most honest and wide-ranging conversations Sober Friends has ever had. Dr. Jaffe went from meth-addicted drug dealer with nine felonies to earning his PhD and building one of the m...

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And the point of growth mindset is you're good at the things you're good at, and most of us lean towards practicing only the things we're good at most of the time because it feels good to be good at something. So if you, I use a tennis example a lot of times when I talk about this, I'll just use it here. If your forehand is really good at tennis and your backhand is really bad, what a lot of people do is they'll run around their backhand. When somebody hits them a backhand, they'll run around so they can hit it as a forehand. Well, sure, forehand is your better stroke. But that also means you're never going to practice your backhand, which means your backhand is always going to be bad. Deliberate practice is setting aside some time, and forget tennis first, like in any other area in your life, to practice the things

0:37.7

you're not good at.

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People don't like doing it because it feels uncomfortable.

0:41.2

But if you set aside time to practice the things you're not good at, over time you will

0:45.4

get better at them.

0:53.1

Welcome to the Sober Friends podcast.

0:55.4

Hey, if you are looking to get on the sober journey,

0:59.6

you're in the right place, whether you're a brand new to sobriety,

1:03.8

you're an old time or somewhere in between.

1:06.6

My name is Matt Jay, and I'll be taking you through this show.

1:09.8

And we have a guest today, Dr. Adi Jaffe.

1:13.3

He is the author of The Abstinence Myth.

1:18.3

We're going to be challenging some of your priors today, maybe even some of my own.

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Dr. Jaffe, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much for having me, man.

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Yeah, I'm glad to, it's great to meet you too.

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So looking through all your materials here,

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one of the things that I saw recurring is a growth mindset.

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And I am a big fan of the growth mindset.

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I utilize it at work. And the frame for everybody today is,

1:49.2

there's a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments,

1:55.0

which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. And that principle is contempt prior to investigation. And you find that

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