Hello and welcome to Drive to Work. I'm pulling out of my driveway, which means it's time to start our podcast. Okay, so today, be aware that I'm kind of doing this whole thing by the state of my pants. Today I'm trying two different things at once. One is I'm going to talk about something that's not a set today, although it's a design element,

and I have a guest. So it turns out that I live in the same neighborhood as Matt Kavada,

who's a good friend of mine, and so I'm taking him to work today. So I picked a topic that

Matt was involved in so that he could join us for today's podcast. Now, I've never done this

before. Technically, technically,

we're using my, uh, my, uh, my phone. So hopefully you guys will be able to hear him and this

will go across well. So I'm driving and go get Matt. Let me a quick, give you an update on Matt

so you guys know the context. So Matt Kovada has worked for Wizards two different times.

The first time I hired him and he worked, he worked in the creative team in charge in names and flavor

text.

And then he left for a while, and he came back, and now he's in charge of overseeing the

look and field magic.

He works in what we call caps.

And if you like, for example, the packaging for Magic 2013, he was very involved in that, the black and silver.

So anyway, today we're going to talk about the design of Plainswalkers.

Matt actually was very involved in this, and so I thought it would be fun to have him involved.

I've never tried this with back and forth to two people, so we're going to try this today.

I'm going to be picking up momentarily.

Matt lives in the, I live in what's called the Iska Highlands, so Matt lives very near

to me, so he will be here for the vast, vast majority of the podcast today.

And I am quite excited to see how this turns out.

So, if you remember, for those that do not know,

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