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Hey, everyone.

Welcome to Dr. Russo Radio.

This is Dr. Ruscio.

Today's podcast is going to be a little different.

I went down to hang out with the guys from Mind Pumped Radio a few weeks ago and did a podcast recording in their live studio in San Jose.

A lot of fun, really interesting group of guys. And we decided to share the interview on our show

because I thought there were some good points that were brought up.

We talked about some of my career early in the fitness industry and how I learned a lot of

what's helped me in the health and medical industry, which is people overcomplicate things.

And you can get swept into teachers and gurus to overcomplicate things, perhaps even though they're well-intentioned because they maybe have a personality type that makes things more complicated than they have to be.

Or they don't spend a lot of time in clinical practice so they can allow themselves to be overly indulged by interesting academic details but never really feeling

the pressure of needing to be more efficient and cost effective and I talk about how I really figured

that out in my exercise career got totally swept up to that when I was early in college and

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