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Hello there, welcome to RunPod, the Run Club of the podcast world. Now, this is where runners unite.

All runners, it doesn't matter what running style you have, nor how fast you complete a 5K, nor whether you've got the latest running gadgets or whether you've signed up for an ultra.

What matters is that you do it, you love it, or at least you love the feel-good effects of it, so much so that after each run, something makes you want to come back for more.

Well, today I am delighted to be joined by a run pod first timer.

Someone who knows a thing or two about how finding happiness,

and very possibly that could be through running,

is so important and beneficial to us all.

He is a doctor, he's a presenter, he's a podcaster,

he's a bestselling author of four Sunday Times bestsellers. And of course, he is a runner. It is Dr.

Rangan Chatterjee. Hello there. Jenny, thanks for having me. I'm super, super excited to be a

run pod first timer. Do you know, I'm really excited to have you on, but I just want to get this

right from the start. What do I call you? Do I call you doc? Do I call you? Well, I mean, go on. Give me a...

Ronan. Rongan, is absolutely fine. Definitely not Doc. Rongan is just fine.

Okay. Brilliant. Okay. Well, let me ask this first of all, Ronan. Have you been for a run today and that's because two days ago I did my local hometown 10k and it's the first time

I've completed that distance without sort of any problems in quite a while actually and my calves

are super stiff and sore so I'm trying to be kind to myself and I'm not going to run I think

probably for another couple of days I'm just going to run, I think, probably for another

couple of days. I'm just going to let myself ease back in. So that's the reason why I haven't

run as of yet today. Okay. You're forgiven. That's the thing. When you've got like tight calves,

you know that you have to get on one of those blooming foam rollers and they just hurt. For sure. I mean, I'm hobbling around and the kids are like,

daddy is something. I said, everything's fine. No problem. My wife said, are you sure this is good

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