Hi, my name is John Kim and I'm a therapist who went through his own

rebirth. I share my feelings and revelations. I believe in casual or

clinical and with you instead of at you I come unrehearsed on

purpose because self-help doesn't have to be so complicated.

Did we or did we not get into a fight the other day? I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to Vanessa who is sitting right next to me.

We did.

So I am using one microphone and what I actually like about this is because Vanessa and I can talk over each other having a one microphone forces only one person to speak at a time.

Oh, now I see your reasoning for that.

I actually think, all jokes aside, I think that if you are,

if you want to have a conversation with your partner, I know this sounds

really dumb, but bust out a microphone.

It doesn't have to be plugged in and the rule is the person holding the microphone can speak only

because what we do is we talk over each other all the time and I am guilty of that

as well. So Vanessa and I just had a fight recently.

I don't know if it's a fight,

but I love the idea of using true life things

to help other people.

So I'm gonna give the mic to Vanessa and she's going to tell you what happened.

So much pressure to be the first one to go. Yeah, and what you were saying about the

microphones that you're saying we call that a talking stick in grad school.

We'd all have a talking, whoever had the talking stick was allowed to speak.

So the fight, to your point wasn't, I don't think really a fight, it was more of like a TIF but we had a bit of a TIF this week around

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