Welcome to part two of our conversation with Jen Johns about spirit guides.

And meditation is an interesting thing.

It's something that I'm just speaking from my own personal experience.

It's difficult as hell to try and kind of get into, especially someone like myself where

I'm super analytical at everything.

And I have a thousand questions. Yeah.

And it's not that I don't want to. I don't believe in in the power of it by any means. I do.

I believe that it is there. And in the right mindset, it can be extremely powerful. But sometimes it's so

difficult to just kind of get into that place.

How, I mean, if you were to give someone advice, you know, like myself, that is like, okay, I believe it's there.

I believe there's power to it. How does one kind of let go enough to have kind of the relationship and the experience that you have

with it to have those sort of experiences? I would say in the last 10 years, what's been working

for me is I use because my brain's all over the place. Okay. And, you know, I'm 47 years old, so I'm going through the perimenopausal.

So my brain is really just all over.

So the only way that I can actually focus, and it sounds weird because it doesn't sound like I'm focused.

I find a certain type of meditation that works really, really well for a busy mind.

And these are meditations that are music, but there are certain frequencies that hit certain parts of your brain.

So you can work, you know, on the computer like I do.

And it still absorbs into your subconscious.

So you're not having to sit still and try to you know think of nothing because there's that's

impossible for me i can't sit still and think of nothing it just doesn't work sure um some people can

i'm not one of them um when i started out with all this i was doing the guided meditations but then

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