Hey everyone, welcome to the What is Money Show.

I am sitting down today with Alex Gladstein.

Alex, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

So today, I love where we're taking this conversation.

You have written this excellent piece titled Uncovering the Hidden Cost of the Petro Dollar.

This was published in September 2021 in Bitcoin Magazine.

In April. in April.

Oh, sorry.

I saw, I guess it got updated.

Updated September, published in April.

My mistake.

And we've been talking offline about the, you know, the various things you've been reading

about this, the resources that have shaped

your thinking. And really, I think this is an excellent geopolitical overlay,

describing some of the deeper problems with money that got us to this point. So I think this

conversation we're going to have in particular is

going to do it's going to be a great way to explicate some of the details of over the past 100 to

125 years of problems we've had with the money, but the but the problems themselves, as I think

will get into you relate to the technological

limitations of money and our systems that we've built up around them.

So we'll start here and then maybe we'll dive into some of the source works themselves

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