Hey, everyone. Welcome to the What Is Money Show. I am honored and thrilled today to be sitting down with Mr. Eric Vohrhees, who is certainly the founder of ShapeShift,

but given that ShapeShift is decentralizing,

I'm not so sure if he's a CEO anymore,

but Eric, welcome to the show.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what's going on over there.

Yeah, thanks for having me on, Robert.

I've been a great fan of the show.

I'm not going to be able to go in depth about like ancient Greek technologies like

like Sailor was.

His whole arc has been fantastic to listen to.

I love that historical context.

But yeah, just really glad to be here. Thanks. Yeah, man, it's great to have to you. I love that historical context, but yeah, just really, really glad

to be here. Thanks. Yeah, man, it's great to have you on. I'm really, really glad to hear you

enjoying the Sailor series guys, something else for sure. But today, I'm hoping, you know, as we're

just saying offline, like trying to understand in my

mind how we have conversations about decentralization. You know, I don't think there's much

of an argument out there at this point, at least in the crypto community, maybe I'm wrong about

this, that Bitcoin is decentralized or is at least the most decentralized

crypto asset in the universe.

It didn't start out that way, right?

It was just an idea in one guy's mind.

It was as centralized as it could be.

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