Hi.

Let it out. Hi, welcome back, or if you're new to the podcast, hello, my name is Katie. Today we have a

repeat guest, Amelah Ruby, founder of softer sound studio and host of the podcast Off the Grid,

is back for part two of our conversation. And it is actually a, could be a standalone

conversation. It's long, as you can see, from the length of this. And you could, you know, just

dive in here and go back to the first conversation that we did.

Or if you want to stop listening now and go back to that one, in part one, it was the first time

we spoke and we focused on her experience, leaving social media and the feelings that come with navigating,

staying on social media, which I am choosing to do,

Instagram specifically, but we talk about using it both personally and professionally,

including the nuances of it, social capital and parisocial relationships and just the general heightened emotions that

are tied up in using it. Obviously, that's a big huge topic, so it took us a while and we didn't

have time to focus on another huge part of her work

which is audio she has a background in radio and currently produces podcasts hosts a couple

podcasts produces a bunch of podcasts specifically that I listen to and love and hosts who have been on this podcast

that you're listening to now like Marley Grace and Michelle and Wallace from Holisticism.

Softer Sounds Amelia Studio produces those shows as well so, so many more, I'm sure many more

that I don't even know of. And we got into a conversation about the medium of podcasting that went all over.

You know, we spoke about how we have both used it to build connections and how the medium has evolved where she sees the future of the

industry. And, you know, at one point, I'm just remembering this now, I cry and I talk about

my last 10 years here and how I've seen it evolve and get a little bit vulnerable about, you know,

the future of this podcast. And also what I love so much about this medium.

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