I always think that the most interesting people are interested.

And that's actually what makes the difference in good small talk because, you know, like someone can say, you know, like, I have three brothers and sisters.

And then it can get to like a pretty interesting place pretty quickly, you know, like if you're interested in, like, what that means and what that experience is like.

Let it out. Let it out. Let it out. This week, you're about to let it out.

This week, you're about to hear a conversation I have with the founder of Reset NYC, Liz Tram. Liz is also an author. Her book just came out. It's called The Karma of Success. I was one of the first people to get to read it,

which is, you know, an honor and a privilege. So we talk about the book a bit and she's incredible.

I genuinely loved the book. Her ability to break down concepts visually is one of my favorite

parts of her work even before her book,

how she would do that on social media, but it's throughout her book.

And so we get into that, as well as how she makes those diagrams and figures.

And we end up talking about dating and my lack of doing it, basically, and how you really have to or her experience was

you have to make space in your life for someone when you're single we get into that we talk

about the difference between self-esteem and self-worth and the way she distinguishes

the two and really makes a case for how important

self-esteem is and the benefits of it being increased productivity and socializing and

assertiveness and then resilience when things go wrong and we get into how to build it and

that we can, which is, you know, primarily about who you surround yourself with and making

sure that people who you feel comfortable to be yourself around and that also themselves have some self-esteem.

So this conversation goes in many directions.

That's just a couple.

We get into being assertive without being rude and that assertiveness is so off-putting to me usually.

So we get into how we both feel that way. And

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