Hey there, as we put this episode together, we're all less than a week from a big stressful election.

And meanwhile, the COVID pandemic is ramping up in kind of a scary way.

Wow. It may not be a bad time for a little bucking up and just a really fun story.

So this is possibly my favorite David versus Goliath story we've ever done.

Jeffrey Fox got an outrageous bill for a simple test

and he said to his wife,

no way am I paying this.

He went to small claims court, all by himself, no lawyer, fighting the University of California, which operates at UCLA Hospital, and he won.

Because the thing is, Small Claims Court is kind of his his home turf he's done this a bunch of times and he's beaten other Goliaths there

You know I sued Microsoft I've a lot of them related to my business and I won every single one of them.

And not just Goliats.

I sued a computer company for $65.

And I told him, I said, you're going to end up paying me $150 once the court costs are added. Now I didn't take a day to drive down to court for $65. I happen to actually have other cases there.

And for any given case, he says the actual money at stake isn't the main thing he's thinking long-term

the point is getting better at well at that standing up for himself I did it just for the

experience again and again soon company seeing how react, so that if the bigger cases come, I've got that much more experience.

Because every time you go into that court, you watch the other cases, you hear the judge say different things. you could say it's like how some people

do iron man triathlons or all their own home repairs whatever like there's an appetite

to rise to a challenge keep learning get a little stronger more self-sufficient

all the time.

Some people bake super elaborate pastries.

Jeffrey Fox defends his rights in small claims court.

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