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The John Batchelor Show

Chris Riegel reports the US leads in AI infrastructure, having over 5,000 advanced data centers, compared to China's 500. China lags due to chip bans, recognizing that data is the new oil.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Chris Riegel reports the US leads in AI infrastructure, having over 5,000 advanced data centers, compared to China's 500. China lags due to chip bans, recognizing that data is the new oil.



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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:05.0

I'm John Batchler.

0:07.0

Artificial Intelligence.

0:08.0

My guide is Chris Regal, the CEO of Scala.com,

0:12.0

global technology firm, business on all the major continents.

0:15.0

This is the Scholar Report.

0:17.0

And Chris, I begin with a report that I have from GROC,

0:20.0

speaking with Ara, whom I consult with begin with a report that I have from Grock, speaking with Arah, whom I

0:22.8

consult with routinely in the evening while I'm podcasting.

0:26.6

I asked how many data centers in Europe right now?

0:31.7

She gave me a number that was a little higher than 500.

0:35.3

How many data centers in the People's Republic of China right now? She gave me a number a little less than 500. How many data centers in the People's Republic of China right now?

0:39.4

She gave me a number a little less than 500.

0:42.2

Okay.

0:43.4

How many data centers in the United States of America?

0:46.7

More than 5,000.

0:49.2

I said, what?

0:51.0

And I checked her again, ask her the same questions.

1:13.3

I learned that 63% of the data centers in the U.S. are of what is called the new type post-2015, up-to-date using power, water, with building staff, training staff. Chris, this contest with China and Europe, it's not even close unless I misread this. Good evening to you. Good evening, John. This is in the United States, specifically,

1:18.9

the equivalent of a new Manhattan project in terms of the investment, the focus, the talent

1:23.9

that's going towards it, and it's building new gigawatt capable native centers for artificial intelligence.

1:30.3

But this is where you're seeing the U.S. dramatically increase infrastructure to be able to serve those AI needs.

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