Anatol Lieven discusses Trump's UN speech suggesting Europe fund Ukraine war, sparking fear of US disengagement. Escalating Russian drone incidents serve as warnings, while UK politics remain unsettled.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 26 September 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel with my good colleague Anatole Levin of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, |
| 0:09.1 | and he's here to help me with the melodrama in Parliament. |
| 0:12.9 | As I understand it, Anatole, it is now widespread gossip that Kirstarmer won't do. |
| 0:18.1 | He is Prime Minister with an enormous majority in the House, |
| 0:22.6 | and his labor majority may be unusually strong. However, he is not, oddly, |
| 0:30.6 | and yet I'm unfamiliar with what happens next. The whispering is now loud, |
| 0:35.0 | and there's headlines mentioning the mayor of Manchester, Andy Burnham, |
| 0:39.9 | who used to be a member of Congress, and I believe left most recently to take up a post in a labor |
| 0:45.4 | strongholder, at least traditionally, of Manchester. But Mr. Burnham is now what we would say in the |
| 0:51.2 | U.S. throwing his hat in the ring. Is this something that's credible or is it aspirational on part of Mr. Burnham? |
| 0:58.2 | Is Mr. Stommer someone they can remove easily? |
| 1:02.9 | Not easily, no. First, you know, there has to be a move by a very large proportion of |
| 1:10.0 | Labour MPs. |
| 1:12.9 | And then as far as, and of course, you know, Stahmer has packed the parliamentary Labour Party with his own people. |
| 1:22.6 | But then again, a lot of these people are completely loyal to themselves and, you know, |
| 1:26.7 | would ditch Stama |
| 1:28.6 | in an instant if they were convinced that he would lose them the next elections. |
| 1:32.3 | The problem with Burnham is that he isn't in Parliament. |
| 1:35.5 | I mean, he is a very credible alternative to Stama. |
| 1:41.0 | He's much more charismatic. |
| 1:42.9 | He has a lot of personal prestige, especially in the old Labour strongholds of Northern England. |
| 1:48.9 | But he's not an MP. |
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