It's nameless anyway, nameless would take away from the beauty.

It is that beautiful and to even claim it says what it isn't.

It's disrespectful for me to even attempt.

It's more beautiful than that.

Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose.

I'm a one-health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you that choose to listen, learn and grow with us every single week.

And you know that it's my intention to help connect you with thinkers, teachers and guides that can help us learn to love ourselves a little more,

that can help us learn to understand ourselves a bit more and navigate the challenges that come with the mind, our thoughts, our hearts and emotions.

Now today's guest is extremely trusted, extremely an incredible thought leader in this space for countless years and I feel so deeply grateful to have her on the podcast.

Now today's guest is none other than Byron Katie and in 1986, at the bottom of a 10 year spiraling to depression, rage and self-loathing, Byron Katie woke up one morning to a state of constant joy that has never left.

She realized that when she believed her thoughts, she suffered.

But when she questioned them, she didn't suffer and that is true for every human being. And you know how much I love questions and answers so I can't wait to ask her.

Now since then she has offered her profound and powerful process of inquiry called the work to millions of people at three public events in prisons, hospitals, churches, treatment centers,

corporations, universities and schools. As she guides people through the work, they find that their stressful beliefs about life, other people, all themselves start to shift through this process, Katie gives people the tool to set themselves free.

And Byron Katie has written full major books, the best selling, loving what is and I'm grateful to have children with me right now so you can see them here. And of course, I need your love is that true, a thousand names for joy and a minor home with itself and a thousand names for joy and we'll be putting the links to these books in the comments as well.

So please welcome to the show with an open grateful and deeply appreciative heart Byron Katie Katie, thank you for doing this. I'm so happy to have you on the show.

Oh Jay, my goodness, it's my privilege for sure.

It's such a joy to sit with someone and just for all of you who don't know Katie and I were just exchanging some some energy and some words before we started recording officially.

There's these moments that when you're present with someone, you feel this energy and aura and this immense joy and beauty that comes from them and Katie, the way you just started this conversation, I felt it from the moment I joined the Zoom call.

I can't imagine what I would have felt like if you were in the room with me right now. So I just wanted to thank you for making me feel so much joy just through your prayer.

Well, I'm just I'm so grateful that you're in the world. Jay, I'm it's not surprising that that you felt that I'm grateful you're in the world.

Amazing. Well, I want to start by talking about your journey, which I know you've spoken about many times, but I love my audience to really connect with your background because I think that when we hear or see people who are incredible authors, incredible thinkers, incredible teachers.

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