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Welcome to The Spectator podcast. I'm Isabel Harbin, the assistant editor, and this week

we'll be discussing Boris Johnson's Brexit pitch, the politics of Eurovision and confessing to our guilty displeasures.

First up, Boris, the former mayor of London came for lunch at The Spectator this week,

and he has also kick-started his battle-bust tour of Britain,

which he hopes will convince Brits to vote out of the EU.

But before he hit the road, here's what he had to say to Spectator readers.

It's now or never. It's what do you really see as a long-term future for Britain?

Oh, spectator reader.

Do you see it as a open, global, free-trading, dynamic economy

based on confidence in British institutions, tried and tested British institutions,

or do you believe that we, in order to survive, we need to remain embedded in something

that fundamentally takes away our powers to decide what we want to do, and over the last

15 years or so has been a powerful depressor of jobs

and growth in our historic European home. Well I'm joined now by James Forsyth who interviewed Boris

this week. So James what sort of mood was Boris in when you interviewed him? Very relaxed mood.

It was the first weekday when he wasn't Mayor of London. He was joking

that he had enough time now to knock out a leader, you know, proofs and pages for us.

I think he also, though, knows that he's in the fight of his political life. He knows

that the stakes for him in this referendum campaign are very high. Because Boris leaves by

country mile on every test of who would you most like to have a drink with, who do you think is most fun and all those kind of things.

What do you use to show in this referendum campaign when on a real matter of substance, he can persuade voters to trust his judgment?

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