Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Meditation Studio.

I'm Patricia Carpus.

In this series, we introduce you to real people with extraordinary stories and experts

who share how meditation and mindfulness practices change our lives.

Our podcast is brought to you by Meditation Studio. Apple's

pick as one of the 10 best apps of the year. Why download the app? Because life is messy.

We get stressed, anxious, have trouble sleeping. We work too hard. We deal with conflict. Our

hearts get broken. We worry about the state of the world.

We meditate because we're human.

Our app gives you hundreds of meditations from over 30 leading experts.

It helps a lot.

And if you haven't tried the app yet, you can now try it for free and explore a starter series,

plus a sample of some of our favorite guided

meditations in the Discover collection. You may also want to check out our new meditation

collections this year. Mindful eating, work, authentic leadership, and a special collection just

for college students. There's also a new mindful work and sleep basics course.

If you've already got the app, check out our new unguided meditation timer where you can

create your own meditations with or without our brand new, pretty amazing music tracks.

And don't forget the aid free meditations on Alexa.

Just ask her to enable Med studio. Today's guest is Brad Warner, founder of the Angel City Zen Center in Los Angeles,

punk rocker, and author of several books on Zen Buddhism, including his most recent book,

It Came From Beyond Zen. His books are based on the

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