This is CBS I In The World. I'm John Bachelor.

Illusionogenics, my childhood included hallucinogenics, especially the famous LSD being celebrated

in rock festivals, notably at the Woodstock Festival. However, all these decades later, I learned

from Natasha Loder, the health policy editor of the economists. What I understood to be hallucinogenics

are part of a large library now of investigations of the applications of psychodelic or psychohalucin

psychotherapeutic drugs and manufacturing of these events in order to cure or at least disrupt

depression, addiction, PTSD and anxiety. Natasha, a very good evening to you. Thank you very much

for this. First, I see the mission in front of us and I go immediately to something I didn't know until

you revealed it in your article. The FDA has already approved something along these lines called

ketamine. What is its intention? Good evening to you. Hello. So the intention of ketamine or S

ketamine, better known as bravato, is to relieve treatment resistant depression and what that means

is depression that has been treated by a whole bunch of other things including SSRIs and you failed

and you're kind of resistant to treatment. Well, you can now have this inhaled form of ketamine,

which is given under supervision, which is intended to provide some relief from the depression and

indeed, also. Relief, not cure relief. That's important to make this distinction because we now want to

look very carefully at what it might, what might be true of all these substances. I'll name them,

but they're very particular and clinically sounding, you know, HT5A. However, the brain is pictured

by Natasha's reporting as something like a tree. At one point, you use the metaphor of a rich canopy.

What is neural plasticity? What are dendrites in Natasha? So one of the underlying capabilities of

psychedelic drugs in the brain is that they seem to be able to introduce neural plasticity,

right? And that's physical changes in the growth of our neurons and the connection between them.

And they do it rapidly. And that's one of the features of ketamine is the relief is rapid. Now,

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