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CBS, I-on-The-World. I'm John Bachelor. I welcome Judy Damse of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She is a senior scholar. She is based in

Berlin, a non-resident fellow. And we turn immediately to concerns that are in

common for the European Union and NATO but European Union dominates the story

for the more than 400 million people of the region and the reigning issue in Europe the

in common with the reigning issue in the United States in North America is migration

from the global south from all directions and what is to be done.

The European Union has a policy, it's called Schengen, it's based on I believe a small

town where they came to that agreement once upon a time.

Nothing fancy about it, but it does uniformly ask for certain conditions and borders that date from well a

thousand years in many instances. However the Schengen is now under review

because of terrorism threats because of the overwhelming

migration of these last this last decade and certainly right now because of what's coming, which is disorder in North Africa and the

Mediterranean has become a place to flee too very dangerously.

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