53. Wiretapped: Can you hear colour?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

When Clifford brokers a small drug deal he doesn’t know that the police are listening in. Clifford is arrested and when the case goes to trial, the recording of the deal is not allowed into evidence by the judge. But the testimony of the police officer is. This becomes the focal point of a courtroom drama that makes it all the way to the Supreme Court of Kentucky. On this episode of Bad People, Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen are joined by our scientific advisor from the Open University, Dr Lara Frumkin. Her expertise on how the way you speak impacts verdicts, sparks a debate about how the Supreme Court Justices voted in Cliffords case. They examine how racism gets passed down through generations of court rulings and how aversive racism can go undetected. Warning: This episode includes discussion of racism and strong language This episode contain clips from ABCnews and CBS, The Late Late Show with James Corden. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Louisa Field Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Editor: Rami Tzabar Music: Matt Chandler Academic Consultants from The Open University: Dr Lara Frumkin and Dr James Munro Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland #BadPeople_BBC Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

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0:00.0	Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to tell you why I love podcasting.
0:04.5	I'm Sasha Johansson, I'm an Assistant Commissioner for the BBC,
0:08.1	and I work on making podcasts. My real passion is discovering unbelievable
0:14.3	unheard stories and working with the biggest stars who can really bring those stories to life.
0:20.0	I love the whole process of making podcasts from the spark of an idea
0:24.8	to hearing the final edit. There's nothing like it.
0:27.6	What makes BBC podcast special is that we're working for you,
0:31.0	so whatever we commission has to reflect the things that you care about and love,
0:34.9	wherever you are in the UK. So if you like this BBC podcast,
0:38.4	there's so much more to discover. Have a listen on BBC Sounds.
0:43.6	BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. Okay, okay, ready?
0:49.8	Three, two, one.
0:53.2	How much can you know about a person based only on their voice?
0:56.5	That's what I want to know today. So Sophie, I have a clip for you.
0:59.9	What mental image do you get of the following person?
1:03.9	So like, from their voice, what do you think they're like?
1:08.4	Okay. I'm very real where it counts, and that's inside,
1:12.3	and as far as my outlook on life and the way I care about people,
1:15.8	and the way I care about myself, and the things that I care about.
1:20.0	I want to say that it's a young person, not necessarily by age,
1:30.3	but young by mind. Weirdly, the image I got in my head was gypsy,
1:35.7	from the kid who was a victim of mentioned by proxy.
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