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Bad People

54. The Jump: Is jealousy a useful emotion?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Three friends - Babs, Els and Marcel - jump out of a plane together. They are regular sky divers and as they approach the ground they activate their parachutes. Els' parachute fails, as does her reserve parachute. She falls the remaining 1000m to her death. Was it a tragic accident or was it murder? In this episode of Bad People, Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen debate their differing views on monogamy. They discuss the psychology of jealousy: what makes someone jealous and does it serve any purpose? This episode contains audio from AP archive. Warning: This episode includes mention of suicide and some swearing. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simon Rata Researcher: Emily Bird Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC

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0:39.5

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0:44.7

Well, when I had my first relationship when I was like 17, my boyfriend at the time and

0:50.2

I would decide as a girl to Berlin for Valentine's Day, and I thought I tried to, for the first

0:56.0

time ever like shave down there.

1:00.2

I didn't know anything, so I just grabbed whatever sort of razor I could find in the bathroom

1:04.4

and the one I grabbed turned out to be really sort of, one of those I should only have

1:08.4

been used once rusty, horrible razor, and I shaved the morning of the trip, and by the

1:14.2

time we arrived in Berlin, I was in so much pain, like I felt like I'd straddle the bonfire,

1:22.1

and I spent the entire romantic weekend just like dry, humping, a frozen bag of peas

1:28.4

while my boyfriend at the time had to like go out and get us food to the hotel room because

1:33.2

I couldn't walk, so it was very much like, I have people at the time stay, just straight

1:39.6

razor burn.

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