By the way people who don't know you are the director of marketing for American apparel correct

Yeah, it's a somewhat ntraditional company

So it wasn't like a day where I magically got the title, but I was

21 22 years old right before I graduated from undergrad in college where I've literally accomplished nothing other than getting into college and not feeling out

Right you would already had a position where most people probably wouldn't have gotten until maybe their late 30s or early 40s

Generally for something like that is that right? Yeah, that's right and look you can tell yourself that story and that leads to you thinking

You're a lot better than you are or you can tell yourself I had to remind myself at the time like obviously

It's great for my career to have this title and I'm an leverage everything I can out of it

But I also have to remember like this is not necessarily the equivalent position of being the director of marketing at

Avacromy and Fitch like there are different companies on different levels different circumstances that being said the

stresses and the responsibilities and the

Temptations were all there and the education was certainly there as well, but it was a whirlwind for Sherman

You mentioned earlier the idea that guys like Stephen Pressfield who've sold a ton of books might turn around and say well

You know, I'm no jet can field or whoever's name pops up

What if you have that and you're not just keeping your ego and check but for me for example

I actually kind of have the opposite problem not that I will make you go so and check it's a problem it

That's not what I'm saying self-conscious is actually more like it literally. I'll spend the entire Friday

Going through hundreds of emails 90% of which are like this show changed my life. I love this

I can't believe it's free. I want to meet you sometime and I'm thinking this is really cool

But I'm not floating on top of the world like Jenny will say crime me a river you have 300 pieces of fan mail in your inbox

You should be on top of the world. I'll find myself saying either out loud or to myself. Yeah, but look at like Joe Rogan

I show is so huge is so impressive

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