I tell kids all the time, how do you separate yourself?

You know, how do you stand out from other people?

So that's what I did. I did the dirty work. I did the thing that other guys didn't want to do.

This is the art of charm. Learn everything you need to know to crush it in business, love, and life.

Today we're talking with two-time Super Bowl Champion Heinz Ward, also the MVP of Super Bowl 40,

a four-time pro-bola and all-time leader in receptions, receiving yards, etc., etc.

There's a lot of stats here. We don't need them. We're talking about growing up,

biracial, growing up without a father, positivity in the face of adversity and dancing with the stars.

Don't forget dancing with the stars. And even the walking dead. Enjoy this one with Heinz Ward

and with that, welcome to the Art of Charm. I'm your host, Jordan Harbinger. I'm here with producer Jason

and Super Sealers van Johnny D. The Art of Charm brings together the best thought leaders,

teachers, and exceptional individuals to teach you how to be a top performer in life, love, and

that work. If you're new to the show, we'd love to send you some top episodes and the toolbox

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that's CH-AR-M-E-D to 3-3-4-4-4 or hit the website at theartofcharm.com. We may not have all the

answers, but we definitely have some of the questions. All right, here's Heinz Ward.

Tell us what you do in one sentence. One sentence. Man, I'm the Renaissance man.

Oh, that's a cheat code right there. I'll take it. I don't know if I do it well, but I definitely

try to do it all. I don't know. It's hard to say that in one sentence. Looking back, reflecting

on my career and all the great things I've done my entire life. I've done a lot. I just turned

forward in. There's a lot of people out there who can't say that they've done what I've already

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