Welcome to unfuck your brain. I'm your host Kara Lowenthal, master certified coach, and founder of the School of New Feminist Thought. I'm here to help you turn down your anxiety, turn up your confidence, and create a life on your own terms, one that you're truly excited to live. Let's go.

All right, my friends, it is no secret to any of you who have ever spoken to me that if I did not

have stepchildren in Brooklyn, I would have probably high-tailed it to the French Riviera by now

or gone to my roots in Italy. I am always dreaming about what it will be like to live in

Europe someday. And to be honest, I was doing that before the current administration. So it's not

just a response to political anxiety. But I'm really excited to be here today with Zerlina Maxwell,

who has made that transition and has a lot to offer, not just about what it's like to make that move, what it doesn't, doesn't solve for you, but also about how it's changed her perspective on the kind of all-consuming feeling of the American political news cycle, which is something she is an expert in. So, welcome to the shows, Alina. Will you brag about yourself little and tell people who you are? Thank you so much for having me, Cara. I'm so happy to be here to bragging myself a little bit.

I am a national morning drive time radio host for Sir 6M. I host a radio show every single morning at

7 o'clock Eastern time, 7 to 9 a.m. Eastern. I also have a newsletter on Substack, the Inner Work Dispatch, which I started at the

beginning of 2025. It's inspired by my late mother. I have a law degree. I've worked two presidential

campaigns, 2008 for Barack Obama, 2016 for Hillary Clinton. And I have a book that came out in the

middle of the pandemic called The End of

White Politics, where I feel like I predicted a lot of what's happening right now, even

though it came out in 2021.

That's Cassandra feeling.

You're getting closer to ancient Greece and to the Oracle.

We love a former recovered lawyer here.

So you are now broadcasting, both here and on your radio show from Sicily, which, first of all, that schedule must be much nicer than

getting up at like 4 a.m. or whatever used to have to do. You moved in the beginning of 2025.

Can you just tell us about, like, what led you to do that? Let's just start there.

Well, it started basically with, you know, I was on my calls every other week with my therapist.

I was living in Washington, D.C. at the time. I had gone through a prolonged period of my mom

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