What the science is telling us is that happiness is actually a skill that you can self-generate.

Right.

That's hugely liberating and the same goes for compassion, you know, which is

inextricably intertwined with happiness in my view.

You think of ourselves as like, oh, I'm kind of like a medium-nice guy.

Or I'm a very nice guy or I'm like actually kind of an impatient asshole or whatever, but that you can change that.

This is the art of charm. Learn everything you need to know to crush it in business, love, and life.

Today we're talking with Dan Harris. He's a co-anchor of nightline and also the weekend edition of Good Morning America on ABC News.

Today we're not talking about newscasting though. We're talking about mindfulness.

What happens when you don't do it right? And of course, what happens when you work on a super high performing, high stress environment

like a newsroom with celebrities like Peter Jennings? Of course, we'll go through his journey of ridiculous amounts of anxiety all the way through to what we propose as a solution, namely mindfulness and a daily practice thereof.

And with that, welcome to the art of charm. I'm your host Jordan Harbinger. I'm here with my producer, Jason.

Well, hello. The art of charm brings together the best thought leaders, teachers, and exceptional individuals to teach you how to be a top performer in life, love, and at work.

We may not have all the answers, but we definitely have all the questions. All right. Let's talk to Dan Harris.

Tell us what you do in one sentence. I am a reporter in Anchor at ABC News. I also wrote a book called 10% Happier about a Fiji skeptical newsman who reluctantly became a meditator.

And I understand this because for me, I've done meditation since high school with a very sketchy track record of consistency, I would say.

And I thought it was the dumbest thing in the world and the hardest thing in the world until I started to learn how to do it correctly.

And I agree with the initial point in your book that really struck me was that most of us are so entranced by this non-stop conversation we're having with ourselves that we don't even know that the voice that's in our head is not actually us.

Yeah, it's like this thunderously obvious fact that you have a mind and are thinking it's like what could be more obvious.

And yet most of us live our entire lives oblivious to this fact and are therefore completely intoxicated with and enchanted by our non-stop yammering internal yammering.

And once you realize this really fundamental fact that you have these thoughts that they're not necessarily the next reality and most of them are negative and sub-referential, then you don't have to get yank around by them.

And it's hugely empowering. I'm curious though, you said that you started meditating in high school.

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