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The ONE Thing

489. How to Win The Long Game (When Everyone Else Plays Short) with Dorie Clark

The ONE Thing

NOVA Media

Entrepreneurship, Business, Careers

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to achieve long-term, exponential success? Dorie Clark, the best-selling author of The Long Game, joins Jay Papasan to discuss how to create lasting impact through resilience, focus, and strategic decision-making. Dorie reflects on her journey, from facing years of invisibility and rejection as an aspiring author to becoming a sought-after speaker, consultant, and professor. Her story emphasizes the power of perseverance—staying the course even when results feel distant or progress is invisible. Challenge of the Week: Dorie challenges listeners to identify one new thing to say no to this week. By saying no to distractions, you free up time and energy to focus on your ONE Thing. To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: the1thing.com/pods. We talk about: The importance of setting realistic expectations Looking for “raindrops”: celebrating small signs of progress to stay motivated Optimizing for what’s interesting to sustain long-term motivation Links & Tools from This Episode: Learn more at Dorie Clark’s website Read The Long Game by Dorie Clark Read Entrepreneurial You by Dorie Clark Read Reinventing You by Dorie Clark Read Stand Out by Dorie Clark Read Give and Take by Adam Grant Read The Gap and The Gain by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy Download your free Long Game self-assessment Free Resources Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email [email protected] or send us an audio note at Speakpipe.com/the1thing. Produced by NOVA

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0:00.0

I'm Jay Papazan and this is the One Thing, your weekly guide to the simple steps that lead to extraordinary results.

0:18.5

Hey there, amigos, Jay Papazan here. Welcome to another edition of The One Thing podcast. Today we get to talk to my good friend and author and speaker, Dori Clark. We're going to hear about her journey to finding exponential results in her career and all the steps she took along the way that you can learn from to get exponential results in your work in your career.

0:38.2

You'll learn how to say no. She's super, super pragmatic and efficient about how to simply say no to

0:44.1

things so that you can say yes to the things that matter. She also will give us some tips on how to

0:48.5

optimize to keep it all interesting. If it's interesting, we want to stick to it. And one of my

0:53.5

favorite little tips she shares is looking for raindrops. And it's interesting, we want to stick to it. And one of my favorite little tips she

0:54.5

shares is looking for raindrops. And it's about kind of keeping heart when it's kind of getting

0:59.5

hard along the way. So lots and lots of great tips for playing the long game to get exponential

1:04.7

results in your life. So who is Dory anyway? She's a multiple Wall Street Journal bestselling author. She wrote a book called

1:12.6

The Exponential You, Reinventing You, Stand Out. And the book that we talk about most here is called

1:17.6

The Long Game, because she definitely has a vision for her life. She's also a contributor to the Harvard

1:24.7

Business Review, Forbes and Vast Company. And she's also a professor at the Duke University

1:30.6

School of Business as well as Columbia Business School. Basically, she's super smart. She's super

1:35.9

practical. You've got lots to learn in this episode. All right, Dory, I'm so happy you're in

1:43.3

Austin and we get to record this podcast together.

1:45.8

Thanks, Jay.

1:46.5

Great to be here.

1:47.4

So when I first read the long game, like in the first 11 pages, like I'm asking, you know,

1:53.9

would this be appropriate or not?

1:55.4

And right off the bat, you have this line about some kinds of success aren't linear,

2:02.6

but they're exponential. And you were talking about your journey to your first book. And you were describing this moment where you'd had a

2:09.1

dinner conversation, where you'd made the decision, I'm going to do this. And it felt like you were

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