In this is a personal topic, we talk about how you can start to get out of your debt.

This is a personal topic for me and it's one that I know many of you struggle with.

So stick around because you are now listening

to Tiny Leaps.

Big Changing. Welcome to another episode of Tiny Leaps. Big where I share simple strategies you can use to get more out of your life.

My name is Greg Klunis and in this episode we are tackling a topic that many of us struggle with.

We're talking about debt and this can be debt of any kind. It can be student loan debt,

mortgage debt, credit card debt. Like we all sort of are in debt.

If you are in the middle class in America,

you are very likely in debt.

Now there are reasons for that

that sound a little bit conspiratorial

and I will not get into it because you will think I'm insane.

But instead of getting conspiracy focused on this episode, we are going to talk about some strategies

to help you get out of debt. And I'm a big fan of some of the

strategies that we're going to be looking at here, but I think overall there's

sort of this process that can help all of us regardless of how much debt we have.

Now, I want to make sure that I state this very clearly.

If you have more debt or you make less money, this process will still work.

It will just take longer.

And that's the central sort of thesis of a lot of the things we talk about on this show right the process

works you already know the process the issue is we all sort of end up getting

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