It's often not saying no that harms the friendship as much as it as how we say no, right? And so

it's one thing to say you are completely overwhelming me. Like you need to step back and find

some way to take care of your problems on your own. And it's another thing to say, man, like, I really

wish I could be there for you. I really do. And like, this is what's going on in my life, you know?

Like every day, it's so many hours with the kids. And so, like, I know that there's this form of

support I can offer you that may not be exactly like fulfilling all of your needs, but I just

want to be really transparent with you because I love you and I don't want to keep letting you down.

I'm Amy.

And I'm Abby.

And as women, we are constantly comparing ourselves to others.

But your life isn't supposed to look like hers.

Being your best self means standing firm in your decisions and always

being willing to grow with a purpose. We get vulnerable and real with an honest look into the

challenges and triumphs we all face. Every woman listening gets the opportunity to choose what

life looks like for herself.

The topic we get asked about more than any other topic is friendships, especially friendships in motherhood because we know how hard they can be to make, to keep, and to go deeper with.

And so we have Dr. Morsafran Franco on the podcast again. We love having her on

because she is so insightful with not only her encouragement, but her wisdom behind friendship.

There are definitely parts of this interview where Amy and I looked at ourselves and we knew

that we needed some self-awareness, things that happened in the past, things that are

happening right now where we could take these connections deeper and have better relationships if we just did

a few things. So with that, let's get into this interview with Dr. Mursa Franco. We hope you enjoyed it

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