You're listening to Biceps After Babies Radio, episode 247.

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A podcast for ladies who know that fitness is about so much more than pounds lost or PRs.

It's about feeling confident in your skin and empowered in your life.

I'm your host, Amber Breezeke, a registered nurse, personal trainer, wife and mom of four.

Each week, my guests and I will excite and motivate you to take action in your own personal fitness.

As we talk about nutrition, exercise, mindset, personal development and executing life with conscious intention.

If your goal is to look, feel and be strong and experience transformation from the inside out, you, my friend, are in the right place.

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Hey, hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of Biceps After Babies Radio.

I'm your host, Amber Breezeke.

And today I'm interviewing Caroline Openstein.

And we are talking about the topic of spirituality and fitness.

And you may be saying, hold on a second, this doesn't make any sense.

Why are we talking about this topic?

What relevance does it have to health and fitness?

And I, one of the things that we talk about during the podcast, and it's something I talk about a lot,

is this idea that many of us as women have been raised to believe that all of the answers lay outside of us,

that we need to go to other people to find information.

I think this is why diets are really popular with women, because we feel like if someone's just going to tell us what to do,

then we'll finally be successful, or we just follow the rules, then we'll finally be successful.

And we are even raised in a permission-based society, where we have to, as children,

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