Two most common cited reasons for divorce or separation, depending on the year, depending on the study, continue to be infidelity and money.

On the flip side, we also know that couples who talk about money report being happier than those that don't.

And my thought in doing this work is that you have to be incredibly vulnerable and develop an

intense intimacy with the person across from you or next to you

if you're going to talk about money. So it can absolutely strengthen our

relationships too if we're willing to go there.

I'm Amy. And I'm Abby.

And as women, we are constantly comparing ourselves to others.

But your life isn't supposed to look like hers.

Being your best self means standing firm in your decisions and always being

willing to grow with a purpose. We get vulnerable and real with an honest look into the

challenges and triumphs we all face. Every woman listening gets the opportunity

to choose what life looks like for herself.

Today you guys are in for a treat because we have

Lindsay Brian Poven on the podcast.

Lindsay is a social worker that turned financial therapist.

She was actually the first financial therapist in Michigan.

So she's got a master's degree in social work, a bachelor's degree in sociology, and she's a certified financial therapist from the Financial Therapy Association.

We loved this episode. You guys will hear it. We went off script. We got therapy. We got all of our questions answered. If you're interested in money mindset, I think this is one that you absolutely have to listen to and

probably send along to your partner. So without further ado here is Lindsay.

As our community knows we love the behind the scenes of a career pivot.

And while yours isn't that wild, let's just start by hearing, why did you go from

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